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Monday, January 30, 2006

 

A Question for Senator Carper

Why not ask Senator Carper if there really any reason for this debate not to continue? Even those Democrats who have declared that they will vote for Alito should recognize that their Democratic colleagues, the majority of their party, feel the need to keep discussing this nomination.

Does the vote happening on Wednesday or Thursday make that much difference compared to the enormity of a lifetime appointment to the highest court on the land? What is the big rush? We rushed into Iraq with no debate and look how that turned out. Why not vote vote no on cloture and support the filibuster? What is the worst that could happen?

Senator Thomas Carper
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UPDATE - From Digby, Via (my hero) Kos

When it became clear that the vote was going against the filibuster, Diane Feinstein, a puddle of lukewarm water if there ever was one, decided to backtrack and play to the base instead of the right wing. That's new folks. Given an opportunity to make an easy vote, until now she and others like her (who are legion) would always default to the right to prove their "centrist" bonafides. That's the DLC model. When you have a free vote always use it to show that you aren't liberal. That's why she was against it originally --- a reflexive nod to being "reasonable."

Comments:
Please stop this crap. This is not about the debate continuing. This is about stopping the majority of Senators who would vote to confirm the nominee. There has been plenty of opportuniy to debate, including about an hour ago when Harry Reid was giving the pre-buttal to the SOTU, instead of letting a member of the caucus enter comments on Alito. Do get over yourselves.

There is nor has there been a rush. Only Clarence Thomas has had a longer time between nomination and vote. There has been plenty of time, and you and the Kossacks appear to have lost, yet again.
 
I think a lot about the judge's views on the unitary executive theory has yet to be dealt with on the floor of the Senate.

Since the judge will be ruling on issues of executive usurpation of congressional power, a full and open debate on his nomination is perfectly appropriate.

What is the worst that could happen?
 
91 days is enough. It's 18 more days than Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sandra Day O'Connor had COMBINED.
 
Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Sandra Day O'Connor were good picks.
 
Nice. Ruth Bader Ginsburg was the near mirror image of Sam Alito. And if Sandra Day O'Connor were nominated today by Bush instead of by Reagan, you, the PFAW and the Kos Kids would be all over her.
 
The Republicans were in power when Ginsberg went through, and could have easily stopped her if they wished. They also were not up against an executive who has expanded the power of the office moreso than any president since FDR, possibly since Lincoln (Nixon, but he got in trouble), and were not deciding the swing vote on the court. Key points to remember.
 
if Sandra Day O'Connor were nominated today by Bush instead of by Reagan, you, the PFAW and the Kos Kids would be all over her.

Wrong.
 
The Republicans were in power when Ginsberg went through, and could have easily stopped her if they wished.

But they didn't. Even though she was the clear ideological opposite of most of the Republican caucus. The arch-social-conservatives literally thought she was the devil, but there was no fly-by-night filibuster attempt.
 
It wasn't a swing vote - she may have been replacing a more conservative justice, but the balance of the court wasn't significantly changed because of her.

Also - not to be too smart-alecky, but its not really the Democrat's problem that the Republicans chose not to oppose her nomination. Alito, now confirmed, will move the court SIGNIFICANTLY to the right - for the Dems, it was a fight worth fighting.
 
Well worth it. Although they lost, the seeds of a true opposition party have been sown and watered.

Naturally, the republicans prefer the supine and apologetic democratic party of Lieberman and Daschle, but those days are over.
 
its not really the Democrat's problem that the Republicans chose not to oppose her nomination.

Well said.

If Roe v Wade falls, and by some twist a future Dem-majority Senate is deciding on a new justice who is committed to renewing Roe v. Wade, you can bet the GOP will be filibustering.
 
If Roe v Wade falls, and by some twist a future Dem-majority Senate is deciding on a new justice who is committed to renewing Roe v. Wade, you can bet the GOP will be filibustering.

You can now.

And presidential candidates Bayh, Biden, Clinton & Feingold all participated, so if they are the president, they can't very well complain.
 
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